Claim review · Rating: False (clipped) · Updated 2026-10-26
Michelle Obama did not call herself "a Black man": the 2025 podcast clip in context
Short answer: No. In the full episode she is asking Marlon Wayans about his transgender child and says "particularly as a Black man," addressing him. The viral post rewrote that as something she said about herself.
The claim
An X post of April 30, 2025 captioned a short video: Michelle Obama: "You're raising a trans kid. That warms my heart, as a black man." Lead Stories notes that the final period turns the quote into a statement about herself. Lead Stories
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Original
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What the original says
- Near 55:29 in the full episode, she moves to a question for Marlon Wayans. Auto-generated YouTube captions (machine-made, used only to find the passage) read from 55:38: "...role model for dealing with a child that's transgender. Absolutely. Um and that's, you know, that warms my heart particularly as a black man. Um you know, I would you care to share that journey..." Episode
- Lead Stories gives a human transcription: "Well, speaking of parenting, I wanted to talk, Marlon, a bit about, you know -- just so proud of how you are being a role model for dealing with a child that's transgender. And that's, you know, that warms my heart, particularly as a Black man, would you care to share that journey?" Lead Stories (secondary)
- The episode names her as co-host with her brother Craig Robinson, with Damon and Marlon Wayans as guests. Episode page · Apple Podcasts
- Snopes rates the claim "Miscaptioned" and puts the passage at the 55:29 mark. Snopes, 2025-05-01 (secondary)
What was changed, in plain terms
| Element | Original | Viral version |
|---|---|---|
| Addressee | Marlon Wayans, a guest, asked a question | Presented as her describing herself |
| Wording | The sentence continues into a question: "would you care to share that journey?" | Cut off after "black man," with a period added in the caption |
| Context | A conversation about parenting | No context given |
How the clip spread
- 2025-04-30, 7:01 AM PDT: The full episode is uploaded to YouTube. YouTube
- 2025-04-30, 8:17 AM PDT: The clipped post appears on X; when we read it on 2026-10-26 it showed about 6.56 million impressions. X
- 2025-04-30: Lead Stories publishes its check. Lead Stories
- 2025-05-01 and 2025-05-02: Snopes and PolitiFact publish. Snopes · PolitiFact
Sources
Primary
- IMO episode on YouTube, 2025-04-30
- IMO episode page
- IMO episode on Apple Podcasts
- The clipped post on X, 2025-04-30
Secondary context only (fact-checkers and reference)
How we know
- Find the full episode on the host's own channel and note the upload time.
- Locate the passage near 55:29 and read the surrounding sentences.
- Compare the quote on X with the words before and after it, and note who is being addressed.
- Confirm the clipped post's date and time through a public read of X.
- State the limit: auto-captions used to locate the passage; audio not independently transcribed.
Related pages
Change log
| Date | Change |
|---|---|
| 2026-10-26 | First version of this page. |
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